Comments on: The Bonds that Bind http://nealo.com/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/ a collection of editorial cartoons by neal obermeyer Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:18:14 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.5 By: nealo.com - cartoons by Neal Obermeyer » Blog Archive » A footnote http://nealo.com/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/comment-page-1/#comment-92 Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:18:14 +0000 http://www.nealo.com/blog/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/#comment-92 […] I wrote a piece last week on the similarity between cartoons depicting Bonds with an asterisk. […]

]]> By: neal http://nealo.com/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/comment-page-1/#comment-91 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:11:14 +0000 http://www.nealo.com/blog/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/#comment-91 When I speak of it hurting the profession, I’m saying it thinking of the perspective of an editor who is paying a staff cartoonist to essentially come up with nothing more than higher-priced versions of the syndicated cartoons.

And this comment is not directed at Koterba – I mean it in general.

]]> By: Jeff Darcy http://nealo.com/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/comment-page-1/#comment-90 Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:37:54 +0000 http://www.nealo.com/blog/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/#comment-90 While I can’t recall hearing Leno and Letterman do the same Jokes, I have heard Leno do Jokes that were identical to Luckovich cartoons that had run that week. It didn’t come as a total shock, knowing from an interview with a Leno joke writer from Cleveland, that his writers read the newspapers and mags, looking for material. Unlike the Bonds cartoons, which just about every cartonist has done a variation of, the Leno Jokes were identical to the Luckovich cartoons.
As far as the Yahtzee affect hurting the profession, you have to remember that the average reader is only seeing one or two cartoons on the opinion page any given day. So if every cartoonist in the counrty did the same Bonds cartoon one day, they’d only be seeing their cartoonists version,unless they went to a cartoon website that ran them all.

]]> By: Adam D http://nealo.com/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/comment-page-1/#comment-89 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 23:23:33 +0000 http://www.nealo.com/blog/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/#comment-89 Cartoons just aren’t odd enough anymore.

]]> By: Andrew Special http://nealo.com/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/comment-page-1/#comment-88 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:47:51 +0000 http://www.nealo.com/blog/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/#comment-88 I said this in instant message form literally seconds before your comment was posted, James:

“I didn’t really think much about that comment, and now that I’ve given it some thought, I think Koterba’s wrong, because Leno and Letterman frequently have jokes that are basically the same thing.”

]]> By: neal http://nealo.com/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/comment-page-1/#comment-87 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 18:44:29 +0000 http://www.nealo.com/blog/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/#comment-87 from James Childress via the mailbag:

Koterba is wrong. There are many times when Conan, Leno or Letterman have almost the exact same joke on a hot breaking topic. Also comics pages usually have similar themes in the same day’s comics about change of seasons, school end or beginning, and holidays. Sometimes the gag or joke is almost verbatim.

]]> By: Andrew Special http://nealo.com/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/comment-page-1/#comment-86 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:40:49 +0000 http://www.nealo.com/blog/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/#comment-86 Very, very interesting read. I think Koterba’s closing question may be on to something.

]]> By: The Daily Cartoonist | News and blog about comic strips, editorial cartoons, cartoons http://nealo.com/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/comment-page-1/#comment-85 Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:23:08 +0000 http://www.nealo.com/blog/2007/08/01/the-bonds-that-bind/#comment-85 […] Editorial cartoonist Neal Obermeyer has written an extensive post regarding a recent “Yahtzee” (multiple cartoonists draw very similar cartoons). This Yahtzee deals with the how Daryl Cagle (MSNBC.com) and Jeff Koterba (Omaha World-Herald) handled the topic of Barry Bonds. […]

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